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Internal Missions
Posted: 03 Jul 2008 05:39 PM
Hello

Firstly this is my first post so go easy on me here. Okay here goes. . . Ever Fallen, tripped or been a bit wobbly while walking? but while climbing your balance is second to none! Wouldn't it be great if we could climb all the time, I mean like 24/7. Would be great hey? The sad truth is that we can't.
For me the only time i am giving my all to God is while my hands are skinless and against a rock but when i'm not climbing i am "naughty". My Fellowship takes Place in the mountains and when i'm not there i feel so far away from God that i actualy look for distractions in the world and I do find them! . . Now climbing in Africa is very much like Thailand- Tonsai full of sin after a climb you can smoke a Joint, Drink yourself into a Stu-pa, take in the view of uncoverd Flesh. bad things when combined in a unmoderated amount ( a worse thing if your like me)

So with all the sin going around i started climbing by myself (Solo, Multi-pitch Self belaying)
Now i have searched for Climbing for Christ members here in South Africa but my searches have proven to be luckless.

Okay finaly to my point i Need fellowship away from the mountains I want to bring the Mountain to me. How? I don’t know but that’s where c4C comes in. After getting to know Lygon through her words I realized a lot of things one of those things is that God is people not person. How about E-belay? “If you don’t let me fall, I won’t let you fall” I don’t think I’ll ever have the honored pleasure of ever meeting any of you due to the traveling costs implicated. Let us put our heads together to come up with a way of having a day of Climbing even if we are in other countries.

The rain is silent until it has something to fall on. Does your rain fall on any trees?

I can walk in the foot steps of elephants
I can soar through the skies with eagles
I can even charter a voyage with the Dolphins
But if I stand on the shoulders of giants I can see the world


With the Love gifted unto me

Martin Cloete

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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 03 Jul 2008 06:02 PM
Martin, What part of SA do you live in? Are you attending a local church there on a regular basis? Welcome to our online community. You are now on e-belay! Climb on!   -Todd

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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 04 Jul 2008 02:09 AM
Hey Todd

I don't attend a local church as often as i would like due not feeling completely comfortable with the teachings, simply do not cater for Freespirits / Wild hearts I guess a c4C chapter would cater for that. I live in the central part of SA about an hour & a half to two hours from Lesotho and in the last weekend of every month i stay in the north about five miles out of Jozini.





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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 04 Jul 2008 08:27 AM
I have a good friend who is working with a local church running an adventure camp near Kokstad. He is a C4C member. How far are you from there? -Todd

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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 05 Jul 2008 02:15 AM
I am about seven hours away from Kokstad. I am just out of Reitz in the Free State. how intensly is c4C involved in SA or is it just Kokstad. I was also wondering if c4C is still involved with Lesotho on a Missionary level?

Martin

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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 05 Jul 2008 08:57 AM
Martin, As of right now (as far as I know) C4C does not have any plans for doing anything in Lesotho or RSA on a missionary level.  -Todd

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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 13 Jul 2008 04:05 AM
Good day

Well that's a pity! c4C would work here! Ha Ha . . . come to think of it c4C would work anywhere.

Then let it be said, that my fellowship will come from the mountains with God, myself and every person that I am with.

The warrior whom dances by the fire
The son, riding a broom stick "Daddy, do you see my horse? am I the little cowboy becoming a man?"
The Farmer, a hard worker but as hard headed as his land.
A young teen-man dumded by love, tripping on flat land.
The Professor, knowledge about this and that, but the same wisdom as a stone never to be a mountain only a clever little stone.
A traveler with the road as his home.
Every you and every him.
are the people that I am.

A while back I would take out drug addicts, athiests. . . everyone who had heard of God for climbing. The problem was that they have only ever heard. I wanted to introduce these people to God the same way I was introduced. Back in 2005 I was in a bad relationship with a woman, I was a athiest doing all kinds of stupid things, drugs, drinking, sex and anything that would dull my pain, my questions in my brain. So one day I went climbing with my sister and that one day changed me, arriving at home after my very first climbing session my girlfriend started fighting with me as I walked through the door she just looked at me saying nothing

Me: Hello Babe
Her: So is this climbing thing! going to steel you away from me?!
Me: I see you've had your cup of b*tch today. No it's not

I should have told her the truth right there and then after just one climb I knew that this would be a long term thing for me. Instead of dulling something I was alive! Now I have always been a person with an answer for everything and every answer was the right one but after my first climb i had questions... fast-forward>> The answers to my questions came from God I soon realized who was good for me and who was not. As it turned out not one person was good for me apart from my family. So there I was and here I am I walked a quiet road (still walking) As God said it is not good for man to be alone. I would venture back whenever I felt lonely, realize that I have gone back to the wrong people when it was to late to stop what I have done I would run. This happens over and over again. It happened last week again. My stupidity must come to an end I want to be “whole” now I know that God is the only one who can fix me. I don’t know why I’m telling you this but it’s maybe just a “belay” that I need or maybe there is another climber out there who has passed the crux that I’m at.

Thanks for the belay!


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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 13 Jul 2008 11:17 AM

Martin, Trying to walk through this life in a relationship with God without going back to our old sinful ways is a difficult thing that all of us will have to deal with until we are glorified. It is kind of like projecting an extremely hard climb, you know that is possible but you always seem to fall.  The key is to keep trying. Keep climbing. You will get better at it and get a little farther each time.  You need to have the proper kit and fitness in order to be successful on a climb.  It is the same in the Christian walk of faith. You spiritual kit and fitness come from reading the Bible and talking with God on a regular basis (daily) and by fellowshipping with other christians in a local church. 

I like to think of the Bible as my ultimate trad rack for the spiritual climb of faith.  No matter how far runout I feel, when I look to the rack I can find the perfect piece of pro to give me the confidence that I need to climb on!  Likewise my local church is like my climbing partners, when I feel like I can't go on or pull a certain move they are there to encourage me or give a bit of beta to help me be successful.

You are still on belay! Climb when ready! Send it!

 

Todd

 

 


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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 22 Jul 2008 02:13 AM
Hi Todd, Thanks for the Belay! I guess a long road awaits my already tired legs.

Tired… a heavy pack at my back
Wish I didn’t take so much junk
Tired… eyes scanning the horizon
No shortcut is safe
Tired… skin blistered by the sun
Not enough to turn my gaze
Tired… mind still motivated
Just a little more and then some more again
Tired… No not tired yet
Lord may I rest at the foot of your throne

I think for some of us being tired is all part of God’s plan, it may just be the only way to get us to listen. I know that I still have a long way to go but when things get sour around me I must look to God, he says I can. I must also find some form of fellowship even if I don’t speak the language! I never actually realized how important it is to be around other Christians. When I still would climb with other people and we had bouldering days out or even just climbing days and mountaineering days there would be one of the most inspiring phrases ever spoken, the loud and prolonged “Dude”. It makes you hold on a little longer pull a little harder and walk a little more and then some more again. Yes I need some “Dude Fellowship” in order to journey along this road.

Are you going to Lygon’s memorial climb this weekend? I would give every piece of pro and piece of gear I own to be there! Sadly the airways won’t accept that as a payment. Instead I will honor Lygon by summiting Mount Mtabatini on Saturday. If you do go please send/give my regards to everyone there all the way from here!

Thank you Todd, for listening and advising on all that needs to be said!

Martin (Not tired yet)


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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 22 Jul 2008 07:34 PM

Martin, Great post! Thanks.

I like this line “I think for some of us being tired is all part of God’s plan, it may just be the only way to get us to listen.”  because that is totally where I am at too.

I will not be going to Lygon's memorial climb. It is on the other side of the country and my funds are below low right now. Like you I will be there is spirit. 

Be strong and courageous!

Todd


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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 16 Aug 2008 08:47 PM

Martin, How are you doing? I haven't heard from you in a while and I wondered how things are going?  Did you find a church to go to?  I'm praying for you.  -Todd


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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 18 Aug 2008 01:09 AM
Hi Todd, I'm okay I suppose or yea I am good! God has my life in His hands! Since you last heard from me I was at that point of being tierd (Still am) okay now God had to get me tierd so I would listen to him. So I'm tierd and I'm listening to Him. Some of the things that I've heard is that I'm hurt, "no no that will not do" I'm very hurt and I'm still hurting (bad). All the things from my past have been re-awoken, like my child hood, my father walking out, rejection. I always tried hinding from what I was supposed to be feeling but now I have got no choice, God is telling me feel and feel all of it! So when you are feeling all that hurt you will know that I the Lover of your soul will make you whole! I also realized God's idea of making you whole is not just numbing the pain but getting rid of it completely! Yea so thats roughly were I'm at "Readers Digest Version". I Haven't found a Church yet so I'm still walking a lonely road hopefully there will be some music flowing over the horizon soon! How are you doing Todd? How are things on your side of the world? Still tierd?

"Feel and Feel all of it" - Thats alot of feeling for me! But I think its alot of feeling for most.


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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 18 Aug 2009 12:44 PM
Hi Todd,

How are you? How are things in the US? Everything over here in South Africa is going on as it always has. We have a new president too as you probably know. I bet our politics makes the rest of the world laugh! I know I've been very quiet. I've been on a very long journey... Todd I just want to say thank you for giving me the belay when you did I have come a long way since then. As it turned out it was my sin holding me down. I can tell you now it has not been easy I had to run to God with all that I had! I don't mean go to church every Sunday, I mean live, eat, sleep, breath, walk, talk, God! And when I did run then the real opposition started. But it was God that kept me going, when I was about to quite God said "a little more and then some more again" "Cast off all fear for I am with you always". One year later I'm standing upright. I know where I'm going. I'm free. Still have a few bad days but we all do. And you know what I find joy in the bad days just as much as in the good! I've found the secret to it! Woo hoo! Do you wanna know what it is? Ask God He will tell you...

Anyway, thank you Todd! You played a huge part in getting me were I am today! I mean it. Thank you!

Oh yea I've met someone or she's not just someone. But it's good this time you know.

Thank you!

Hope you are blessed tremendously!

Marti



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Re: Internal Missions
Posted: 18 Aug 2009 12:44 PM
Hi Todd,

How are you? How are things in the US? Everything over here in South Africa is going on as it always has. We have a new president too as you probably know. I bet our politics make the rest of the world laugh! I know I've been very quiet. I've been on a very long journey... Todd I just want to say thank you for giving me the belay when you did I have come a long way since then. As it turned out it was my sin holding me down. I can tell you now it has not been easy I had to run to God with all that I had! I don't mean go to church every Sunday, I mean live, eat, sleep, breath, walk, talk, God! And when I did run then the real opposition started. But it was God that kept me going, when I was about to quite God said "a little more and then some more again" "Cast off all fear for I am with you always". One year later I'm standing upright. I know where I'm going. I'm free. Still have a few bad days but we all do. And you know what I find joy in the bad days just as much as in the good! I've found the secret to it! Woo hoo! Do you wanna know what it is? Ask God He will tell you...

Anyway, thank you Todd! You played a huge part in getting me were I am today! I mean it. Thank you!

Oh yea I've met someone or she's not just someone. But it's good this time you know.

Thank you!

Hope you are blessed tremendously!

Marti



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