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Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 20 Jan 2008 09:17 AM

OK I picked up a set of Trango's Scorpion ice tools for cheap on ebay. I thought that I would do a long term test  on them here.  First time going leashless for me too, so that should be interesting as well. 

I went out to the waterfall wall near Crane Mt with Jay Harrison the other day and it was real thin with water rushing underneath.  The picks seemed to work great with no modification. The ice was really too thin to get a good swing but they seemed to swing nice. I did overswing and hit rock, really boogered the factory point on the pick quick. We see how it works after fixing it with the file.  The handle seemed to fit my small hands fairly well and I didn't miss the leashes(we will see what happens when we get on sustained steep ice).

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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 24 Jan 2008 08:11 AM
I got out for a couple of hours yesterday and was able to bash on some fatter ice. I really like the feel of the swing and the stick ---very similar to the Petzl quarks.  They seem to work well for bulges as well. Being leashless didn't seem to be an issue for me but we will see if that holds true when the going gets steeper and longer.  Overall the Scorpion seems to be a sweet tool and I am psyched about them!

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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 25 Jan 2008 10:07 PM
those look like some serious tools! I must say, I love going leashless. I will probably only go back to leashes for big alpine routes, even then I will probably make some umbilicals for my tools. Welcome to leashless, feel the freedom, feel the pump!

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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 30 Jan 2008 12:00 AM
Leashless all the way. I'm new to ice, and having no prior attatchment (no pun intended) to leashed climbing; I tried both, and I feel like leashless is sooooo much better. Except for the heinous forearm pump of death. That's all part of the madness though.
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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 30 Jan 2008 06:33 AM
I haven't experienced too much pump really. Maybe you guys are gripping your toools too tightly?

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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 30 Jan 2008 12:22 PM
The only times I've pumped badly have been on vertical ice. Other than that, I barely hold the tools at all.
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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 31 Jan 2008 05:44 PM
I was chatting online with Malcolm Daly from Trango about ice tools.  He said that Trango got out of the ice tool business because they could no longer compete with the big dogs.  It really is too bad because Trango seemed to really be on the cutting edge, and their customer service has been excellent as far as my experience is concerned.  It is kinda nice to be able to go online and carry on a discussion with the pres of a major climbing company.  So if you are interested in any of the Trango ice tools then you should pick up a set soon! Mal assured me that they will continue to manufacture the picks so finding replacements should not be an issue.

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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 31 Jan 2008 11:00 PM
That is a bummer. I wish I had a chance to climb on some other tools. Not that I dont love my Vipers, but I wish I could have climbed on something other than BD or Petzl before picking up a pair. I really want to try the new Austri Alpin stuff- that looks way sweet too! Anyone know where I could demo some?

I only get pumped on the vert stuff too- but I developed a french free method of not hanging on the rope so much but from an ice tool. Works pretty good for when you need a break or are setting a screw.

Speaking of climbing, you guys goin out soon? I am this weekend! Woo Hoo! That would be 2x in 30 days! Almost a new record for me!

I do love all my Trango gear, the cams, alpine equalizers, belay device- good stuff.

Keep those points pointy.

-Me

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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 01 Feb 2008 06:03 PM
One of our members in Canada eh? Aaron Hemphill is an Austialpine rep. He may be able to get you a set to demo I don't know.  Maybe he will send me a set to do a review on them! hmmm? Weather is not too great right now but I hope to get out again this week.

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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 01 Feb 2008 08:16 PM
Demo some AustriAlpins, eh? Sure I will. I'm having a heck of a time picking tools. Haha, pun intended, I suppose. I"ve really got my heart set on the BD Reactors. I've always liked them, and I got to climb on them, and I loved them. They feel like surgical tools. So precise. I also got to climb on the Grivel X Monsters. Those are pretty sweet too. Better at bulges and super steep ice than the Reactors, and cheaper too. But they just don't feel as sweet in my hand. The reactors feel like part of my body. How do you guys feel about multiple sets of tools? Everything is really leading me to believe that two sets of tools is really the best option. One set with a mildly curved shaft, more set up for alpine/low angle ice; and one heavily curved set, beter for steep ice/dry tooling. I know there's a fair number of decent crossover tools, but I always feel like it's the jack of all trades, master of none thing. most of the crossover tools semms they they wouldn't be great at steep or low angle; just adequate at both. What to you guys think?
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Re: Trango Scorpion ice tools
Posted: 21 Feb 2008 05:29 PM
Latest update. I followed on a steep 3+ first ascent by Jay Harrison. Jay had to place his first screw right in the middle of freezing run-off, so as I was taking it out my hands got wet and by the time I got to the next screw my hands were blocks of wood.  I never had trouble holding on to my tools even without leashes.  The sticks in fat ice were very sweet and bomber.  I am really loving these tools!

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